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I was looking for an IoT device to open/close my garage door (+ gate) via iOS/app. Pretty much like the Netgear Arlo cameras, which do the same for security cameras I found many – including gogogate2 and many others – however, all of them (so far) want to connect to the garage door via hard-wiring their device to the garage door opener. I was looking for one that sends RF from their device to the garage door (+ gate). To mimic the existing 'clicker' we all have for opening garage doors. So far, I can't find one.

And, my reason, is that it would be easier for me – especially since my gate doesn't have an easily accessible switch, and it's just ugly having to connect wires to the existing switch for the garage door. I guess there is some reason why the current market doesn't do this – or maybe I just haven't found one yet that does this – therefore, I'm asking here to see if anyone has seen any product like this.

Hi Bob, I was looking for an IoT device to open/close my garage door (+ gate) via iOS/app. Pretty much like the Netgear Arlo cameras, which do the same for security cameras I'm using an OpenGarage (). I'm using a Merlin roller door remote, which has wireless buttons on the wall near the roller door. I soldered the leads from the OpenGarage to the back of the existing wall remote. Not sure if this quite meets your requirements, but Ray's Hobbys has some great devices like OpenSprinkler as well. Cheers, Paul. Most garage door openers use some form of 'code hopping' or 'rolling code' for security reasons.

Every time you press the button on the remote a different coded message is sent. The idea is that even if somebody intercepted the signal when you open the door, they cannot just 'play back' the message and get the door to open (this is basically what a 'learning' remote does).

Nor should it be possible to examine the message and work out what the next message will be. To do this, either part of the transmitted message is encrypted, or a cryptographically determined message authentication code is added. The manufacturer keeps the cryptographic key secret, 'to protect your security', but also so that they are the only ones that are able to make replacement remotes. Well, others may be able to work out the key, and thus be able to make compatible remotes, but this is not easy, and that would be why you can't find an IoT device that can generate the codes.

Maybe one day the makers of such devices will go to the trouble of getting keys for door controllers, but they would probably only target very popular brands of door controllers – in the same way that you can't buy compatible remotes for obscure brands of door controllers. Some older door openers use a fixed code – the remote sends the same message every time the button is pressed, and such a code can be relatively easily replicated by some IoT device. With that in mind, you could add fixed code receiver to a door controller that uses a rolling code, but that would be a definite backwards step as far as security goes. Or, you could get a genuine remote (or compatible, if available for your door controller), and wire that to the IoT device, so that in effect the IoT device is pressing the button on the remote.

I'm not sure if that is what Paul above did. Some 'wall' remotes are actually just RF remotes attached to the wall – we have one like that, but it is made by ATA, not Merlin. Usually, a lot of garage door motors will have terminals for switches.

If so all you just need is to have your IoT microcontroller/microprocessor open/close a relay contact on those terminals. There may be the possibility of using local power, some gate motors or controllers do have this ability to power sensors, receivers or so on with a low voltage DC power supply built in available for other devices. You can then piggyback your IoT straight off the opener, possibly may need a different PS or hard wire it to a location elsewhere. As has been explained RF compatibility with a multitude of products would be extremely difficult to implement.

A relay works with anything. That has the ability for hard wired contacts anyway. Is there any reason you are against this? The hacked remote as suggested is about the best you'll get to what you want I'm aware of. Not totally against wiring to the existing motor. But I have a garage door, and a gate, 2 separate motors, and 2 separate fobs. The gate has no indoor wiring, it's all enclosed in an outside unit (which I've never been able to open).

(and here is the weird thing, one day when I was trying to relearn one of my fobs, I don't know how, but I got one of my fobs to open both doors from the same fob, with just 1 button. Electricians who have been here, said that was impossible, but I have it working – but that's a side story). I just wanted to get an IoT solution to the gate/door situation I have now (easily/neatly) and thus I thought mimic the RF coming from the fob(s). Actually, the real motivation, was that (it's only happened twice in a number of years) – I was away, and I noticed that the gate (not garage door) was open.(from my Arlo cameras). I was sure I didn't do this. So, I had security go around and close the gate. They noticed one of my TVs on the side of the house near the gate was also On.

A rogue signal. (had this TV turn on by itself in the past). So, somehow this rogue signal managed to open the gate and turn on the TV.

So, I thought an IoT solution would be the easiest to solve this if it happened again in the future. (probably best to get new gate motor with modern security protocol to stop chance of rogue signal). One day when I was trying to relearn one of my fobs, I don't know how, but I got one of my fobs to open both doors from the same fob, with just 1 button Even with rolling code systems, this is entirely possible if the two controllers are the same brand, or at least made by the same manufacturer (otherwise the receiver can't work out what cryptographic key to use).

People sometimes think that the learning process 'pairs' the receiver and the transmitter (or a specific button on the transmitter). However, all that happens is that the receiver adds the transmitter to a list of 'trusted' transmitters. It can tell two transmitters apart because every transmitter has a unique serial number that is sent as part of the message when a button is pressed.

There is nothing to stop a particular transmitter/button from getting added to the 'trusted' list in more than one receiver, at least, not in a typical domestic system. If that happens and you don't want it like that, you would have to get one of the receivers to 'forget' or erase that transmitter, which on many systems requires that you erase all transmitters and then relearn only the ones you want. If you got this with controllers not made by the same company, then I don't know how it could happen. Unless maybe they do not use a rolling code.

I have encountered at least one transmitter/receiver sold as a rolling code system, where that was just plain wrong, a fixed code was used, but I would not expect that from any reputable or well-know brand. Probably best to get new gate motor with modern security protocol to stop chance of rogue signal Might just be some random glitch in the controller.

For a rolling code system, the chances that a rogue signal would be accepted is very small. There would be some tiny chance that a neighbour has a similar system, and they happened to arrive home and open their gate just at the time you happened to be pressing the learn button on your controller, but even that is very unlikely (and if that did happen, you would probably see phantom opening more often). Some controllers can be programmed to close the gate after a certain time delay, so that it would not stay open until you discovered it and did something about it. The recommendation is to not activate that feature unless you have a photo-electric beam fitted. As for theTV and gate both getting activated – does the TV even use a RF signal for the remote? Some do, but more often it is IR (infrared). Hi Woodag, Or, you could get a genuine remote (or compatible, if available for your door controller), and wire that to the IoT device, so that in effect the IoT device is pressing the button on the remote.

I'm not sure if that is what Paul above did. Some 'wall' remotes are actually just RF remotes attached to the wall – we have one like that, but it is made by ATA, not Merlin. Yep this is exactly the case.

The Merlin wall button is essentially a remote with a single large button that is learned just like the normal remotes. I soldered the two wires from the OpenGarage onto the back of the wall button, if I use the Blink app to open the roller door, it bridges the two wires which has the same effect as a button push. (both DIP SWITCH and ROLLING-CODE (max. 200 codes) I was trying to figure what they meant by 'max 200 codes'. Manufacturers often quote the total number of different codes possible, but for that 200 is incredibly low. Also, the number of possible codes is often a power of 2, or of 3, so 4096 (2 12) and 6561 (3 8) are common numbers, and 200 is not a power of 2 or 3. So I located the manual, and what they really mean is that 200 is the maximum number of remotes (fobs) that it can learn.

Like some other controllers I know of, the receiver can handle either fixed or rolling codes, but not both types at the same time – so if the first remote it learns is a fixed code one, then all of them have to be fixed code. With a receiver like that the best way to tell what type of code is used is to look at the remote, as suggested in the video you found. A sure sign that it is a fixed code is a row of small switches, or sometimes a row of small pads on the PCB that can be bridged by solder or short wires.

Unfortunately you can't always tell. For a start, people sometimes replace fixed code remotes by learning remotes, and although those transmit the same fixed code, they don't have any physical switches. There are also fixed code remotes where the code is set at the time of manufacture – again, no physical switches. That does allow more possible codes, so such a system is a bit less susceptible to 'brute force' attack (spinning through trying all codes), because that might take a very long time. The signal can still be intercepted and played back in learning-remote style though.

Thanks for the discussion, it's been very interesting and great suggestions. Yes – I saw the Garadget – but it too (like most others) requires you to wire their device into your existing system (I think) and that's something I can't do with my outside gate.

(rather, I don't want to do). Great work at finding the manual!

– since I didn't post the model name. Yes – the closest, and probably what I'll go for is, the Prota – push button. It did leave me to another thought (and I sent a whim about it, but why not share it here).

-----------the Prota idea sparked a thought--------- I realised I may be able to use an existing system I have. It's a remote power On/Off device to reset power devices via SMS. I wanted a different route to reset devices if path is down (net off, etc). This box works great (even if half is still in russian and uses 2G, which is harder now that 2G is being discontinued by some carriers). They have other inputs – (even IR) but no RF (and I've asked them about this). So, I may still need to run wires from the gate (which gets me back to original gogogate system). --------- since writing this, the makers got back to me and they don't have an RF input.but they do have IR input.

So, I could also an get an RF to IR converter. But, I have to stop myself from going too far down the rabbit hole. So, probably either a new system altogether or just a Prota and a clamp to hold the fob in place. I purchased the RMPro.

I did a bit of tinkering with an RM pro about a year ago. Definitely won't work for rolling codes, but it sounds like maybe your remote is using a fixed code, and in that case the RM pro may well be able to 'learn' the codes. That is provided the RM pro you get covers the frequency your remote uses. Internally the RM pro can have two sets of RF transmitters and receivers, so it can handle up to two frequencies, typically 315MHz and 433MHz. However, some are sold with only one set – the one I had was 433MHz only. As far as I know, it also only supports OOK/ASK (modulation type) but that covers most remotes. Of course, it also does IR, so maybe you can get it to control your TV and a few other things too.

Edit: Some photos here showing the RF modules and the rest of the innards of the RM pro. You'll have to Google translate it is you want to follow what they say about it. Ok – got the RM – took a while to even get it to recognise my wifi network – but after many attempts, it finally worked (doing the setup manually for the 3rd time). It did learn my garage gate remote. And it does send (at least, the light goes on) when I hit the remote in the iOS app. But, alas, it doesn't open the garage gate.

(I tried it with 2 different brands of remote I have). So, will keep trying – but so far, it was a fail. **Edit.wondering out loud.maybe I have to 'train' the garage gate to recognise the RM.which is what I have to do when I introduce a new remote control fob.will see if I can do this.and will report back later. **Edit2.Nah.the learning (of the garage gate for the new device) didn't work. No luck so far. I got the Prota Push device.

In my eyes, it's a scam. I applied for a refund and they denied my request, so now getting it refunded by Paypal. You buy the device, and then find out it ONLY works via bluetooth! For a company that is all about IoT – this is a scam. No where on their site (that I could see) does it state BlueTooth only (search for that term on the product page and it doesn't exist).

I pointed out multiple places that they advertise wifi. They say they stand by their description. If you want wifi, you can buy their router (which wasn't availble when I purchased). Another $US99. Paypal agree with me. It's a shame, as I wanted the device to work. But seriously, bluetooth!

What's the point of that! It's all about IoT.i.e. So, at the moment, back to looking at dedicated IoT garage door solutions with wires to the box itself. Mind if I jump in and be a party pooper.

As a manufacturer of openers, we have to be compliant to the Australian Standards and using Smartphones to operate the garage door is quite complex when it comes to the safe operation of the door remotely. We do have products about to launch that will enable remote operation, monitoring of the door status and notifications. If you do try an add on device, keep in mind, it may have been developed for other countries with different regulatory requirements. Example: garage doors in the States have PE beams insatalled as a safety device.

In Australia we rely on force obstruction as a primary safety device. For remote operation, the PE beams are required (Australian Standards requirement). So if you do want remote operation, for the love of dog, please fit PE beams!

Take my Chamberlain Hat off for a minute: I am using the Gogogate 2 at my house as a trial. I do like it, but the novelty has worn off. It did require me to wire to the unit and install door sensors to enable the door status. I also use a camera to view the garage, but have stopped using the Gogogate and just use the camera software to remotely view the garage and house. Something for the MT60P as well, I hope? I've got a camera in my garage too to monitor status of my garage doors – all I need is something to actually open/close the doors remotely via my phone and I hope your solutions target that specifically Sorry.

We have had to develop new products to meet the regulatory requirements. Prem Geet Bangla Movie Song Free Download. Older products will not be compatible. Even with a camera in the garage, its not failsafe, so we, as a manufacturer, cannot produce a product that may be enabled in such a way to create a potential hazard to person or property. We have had to develop new products to meet the regulatory requirements. Older products will not be compatible.

Even with a camera in the garage, its not failsafe, so we, as a manufacturer, cannot produce a product that may be enabled in such a way to create a potential hazard to person or property. Completely understandable from a safety and liability point of view. Taking your Chamberlain Hat off again, the Gogogate 2 would certainly target what I'm trying to do wouldn't it? Is the setup simple? Completely understandable from a safety and liability point of view.

Taking your Chamberlain Hat off again, the Gogogate 2 would certainly target what I'm trying to do wouldn't it? Is the setup simple? Hat off and locked away for awhile. I like the GoGo gate2 I set up two roller doors and one virtual door. I used reed switches I had lying around for door status, and connected a camera to test the GoGogate plugin. (i didnt want to pay $40 for GoGogate reed switches when I can get them from Jaycar for about $10) The issues I have are that the product is not designed to be used in Australia.

The manual states it is designed to be used on doors with PE beams already installed. I know most people wont install PE beams. The Gogogate unit (my unit at least) did not have the Regulatory mark of approval. I'm not sure if its because it can be installed on doors without PE beams, and still enable remote operation, or if there is an issue with the compliance on other aspects other than safety. It was easy to set up.

It took longer than advertised, but I had a glitch during setup, that meant i had to google the issue rather than referring to the manual. Overall, I think its a gimmick. Its cool to show off to tech head mates, and the notifications are nice, but I have never had to remote open the door. And I would be concerned about the door being open. One other issue i have is the compatibility with Auto Close.

As I use the Merlin MR850EVO's with BBU and PE beams, I have auto close setup. There has been a few times when I have swiped to shut the door, but Auto Close has started during the GoGogate closing sequence. This means the door stops closing, and sits there until AutoClose kicks in again. This is a user compatibility issue that cant be resolved. So I do like the Merlin MyQ range as there is no compatibility issue, or compliance/regulatory issue.

It will do what the GoGoGate does, but with no abnormal behavior leaving the door open. How much is it going for just out of curiosity? For a sectional, standard single car garage door This is a hard one. Dealers in different areas charge different rates to supply and install. Some dealers are like Qantas and everything is included in one top end price. Other dealers are like Jetstar.

Here's the base price but add for the extras, and end up costing just as much. We may supply a kit with three remotes, but the dealer may only quote a single remote, and then charge extra to get the additional remotes. We don't have any control over these practices. We frown upon it, but it comes down to the customer. Some customers prefer it as they may only need one remote, and dont want to pay for the extra two.

But ball park range will be over a grand. Included in the kit are PE beams and the premium remotes, so there is additional value over the other products in the line up. I'm surprised nobody mention Belkin Wemo Maker here. I spent an hour to get it done for my ageing ATA GDO-2 Garage Door Opener installed in 1993. The remotes are not working and it has 12 dip switches very old RF, eBay selling the remote for $35 which is a rip off. I turned to Wemo.

By running Wemo Maker, just connect the relay to OSC of the door opener jumper. I can now control the garage door opener by not only WiFi but 4G over my iPhone 6 and Google phone. It has IFTTT to run so many different rules. I had the fright of my life thanks to the Gogogate.

I logged in to show a colleague the differences between the Gogogate and MyQ. The Gogogate was showing my door as open and the camera plug in was not working. I rang the wife and she wasnt home. I logged into the camera system from my PC and it looked like the door was closed. The wife went home and found all was ok. Gogogate showed the door open all day until i got home and found that small rock was under the edge of the door, lifting it enough to misalign the door sensors.

I'm surprised that chamberlain think that you should replace the entire system to enable this capability, atleast in other markets they provide options to retrofit 'older' (mine is less than 12months) to MyQ, really limits your options when they have propriety protocols Safety is the number one priority. We need to ensure the safe operation of our products. Unfortunately we are not able to provide an add-on unit that can be retrofitted at this time, as it does not meet the Australian Standards for 'unattended operations'.

Would you prefer a company dismiss their duty of care and produce a product that has the potential to cause damage to person or property? I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but could they sell a set of components (PE Beams + Gateway etc) to bring it upto AS and enable the capability rather than tell customers their only option is to spend around 1k and throw out an old system (in my case one thats not even 12 months old)?

I'm not saying to erode the trust of this business by not adhering to a duty of care. I'm simply surprised there is no upgrade path based on what I've read, it seems an onerous investment to add a few minor accessories. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but could they sell a set of components (PE Beams + Gateway etc) to bring it upto AS and enable the capability rather than tell customers their only option is to spend around 1k and throw out an old system (in my case one thats not even 12 months old)? I'm not saying to erode the trust of this business by not adhering to a duty of care.

I'm simply surprised there is no upgrade path based on what I've read, it seems an onerous investment to add a few minor accessories. Hi, Sorry for not responding through the holidays. Its my first day back at work. Find My Font Software Cracks. I understand the frustration of not being able to add components to allow an upgrade to the existing range. Its not as simple as just adding PE beams and a gateway. In essence the pre-MyQ range just doesn't have the components on the PCB or the firmware to enable MyQ to work.

Pre-MyQ products have a receiver that responds to remote controls. I.e one way traffic. Myq products have to communicate with the Gateway, so two way traffic is required. Rest assured we have taken the feedback from customers and are assessing the ability to 'upgrade' for existing customers. But as with all our products we need to ensure a safe, reliable and simple to use product before we proceed.